WHO IS MACK MCLARTY: He (Thomas Franklin “Mack” McLarty) served in the Clinton White House as his first Chief of Staff for 2 years. He then moved on to be the Counselor to the President and Special Envoy for the Americas and returned to private life in 1998; keep in mind the Americas is where all the drug activity was occurring between Mena, Arkansas and destinations throughout North and South America. As an envoy, he would have had the ‘cover’ to fly throughout the area with little to no oversight.
Prior to joining the Clinton Administration, he served as CEO/Chairman of Arkla, Inc. Arkla was a natural gas company with ties to the Stephens clan and Worthen Bank. We will discuss the Stephens clan shortly but its important to note that they made Bill Clinton. They, not only made his politic career but, staffed the White House with their people. Just so you understand the concept of the uniparty, President George H W Bush appointed McLarty to the National Council on Environmental Quality and he also served on the St Louis Federal Reserve Board.
He went on to create McLarty Associates (International Advisory consulting company) in DC and McLarty Companies in Arkansas. McLarty’s Arkansas company set up business in the Worthen Bank Building. He, like many others from Arkansas, started on the right track at a little known program called Arkansas Boys State. It’s a high school grooming program for the Arkansas elite’s children. Both he and Bill Clinton attended the grooming program. It is programs like these that ensure the up and coming people to be used will meet each other and those friendships bear fruit for their controllers/backers, in my opinion.
McLarty’s parents owned several local automotive dealerships in Arkansas and once he graduated from college, he and his new bride returned to Hope, Arkansas to join his dad’s business. McLarty served in the Arkansas house of representatives. He focused on building a massive truck leasing company initially called M&M Leasing and then McLarty Leasing. Which, if you are involved in smuggling drugs, weapons or contraband, owing a truck company would definitely come in handy. McLarty would move in and out of DNC positions over the years. He served as Clintons first campaign treasurer, tracking all the finances for the campaign. McLarty, with no real experience in the industry, was name the youngest board member of Arkla (Fortune 500 company), a natural gas company in Louisiana and became their CEO in 1983.
McLarty was a member of the Clinton transition team in 1992 and, as stated early, was his first chief of staff. Interestedly enough, it was McLarty who served as the WH coordinator for the Olympic Games in Atlanta. Yes, that Olympic Games where the bomber incident occurred. He left the WH in 1998 and set up his McLarty Associates with Nelson Cunningham and Henry Kissinger (a few years later). This provided another think tank of former ambassadors, journalists and former political appointees a place to hang out while their team was out of the WH. Kissinger left the full time gig in 2008 but remained on the board.
McLarty’s other business venture, McLarty Companies is the dealerships/leasing that his grandfather founded. He became chairman of this entity. He would later form a partnership with Robert L. Johnson (who owned Black Entertainment TV). It is under RLJ that you find the information of this company and almost nothing when searching under McLarty. This company owns over 47 franchises. It should also be noted that real estate is the go-to safe haven of people involved in elicit money laundering activities. This is not an accusations but its where the mob/mafia put their ill-gotten gains and sure enough RLJ has a significant holding of very pricey hotels. Primarily Hilton, Hyatt and Marriott and the Hyatt company definitely reaches back to the Chicago mob ties through the Pritzker family.
It isn’t surprising to learn that McLarty is a member of the Council of Foreign Affairs, an advisor to the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) and he featured prominently during Hillary Clinton’s tenure as Secretary of State. He provided her introduction at a CSIS forum and worked closely with the state department during this time. The particular forum Clinton spoke at was presented by Laventiadis’ Companies. Lavrentis Lavrentiadis owned the largest Pharma company in Greece, Proton Bank and various other companies and in 2012 (the end of Clinton’s reign as secretary of state) he was accused on fraud, money laundering and membership in a criminal gang. The parent company of this entity was Neochimiki S.A.. Lavrentiadis was Greece’s largest supplier (one of the largest for EU) of chemical products. His partner in the bank venture escaped arrest by fleeing to….Israel. Interestedly the warrant for the partner’s arrest was delayed 24 hrs allowing enough time for him to escape.
Mic drop moment: The infamous Carlyle Group bought Neochimiki S.A. Lavrentiadis in 2008. For those of you who’ve read some of my other articles. The Carlyle Group is a James Baker, Bush Sr, Saudi Arabia, etc private equity group that owns a significant interest in most defense contractors, banks, foreign assets, etc. There is also a connection between Carlyle Group and the bank BCCI which will be discussed later.
This gives you a feel for the universe that McLarty worked in.
WHO IS MARK MIDDLETON:
As many of you know Mark Middleton was found dead in 2022 under suspicious circumstances. We are suppose to believe that he went to a ranch he’d never been to, in another county, with a shotgun and ‘dollar tree’ electrical extension cord, wrapped the cord over a tree limb then shot himself (some reports indicated twice) and died. According to the sheriff, with very little blood on scene. ““I don’t know the man, and I don’t know why he picked our county or picked that location to commit suicide. To our knowledge, he had never been there before, and we have no record of him being there before,” the sheriff told Daily Mail.” Which seems like a weird thing to say since the sheriff doesn’t keep records of anyone’s visit to the ranch. Sheriff also adds “It was very evident that the shotgun worked because there was not a lot of blood or anything on the scene. You can tell the shotgun blast was on his chest, you can tell that because there is a hole in the chest and pellets came out the back of his back. It was definitely self-inflicted in our opinion.” So the pellets all came out the back but no blood?
From the same article, according to Middleton’s brother: “My brother died by suicide in Perry County, Arkansas on May 7, 2022, at the age of 59 years of age. Since his death, I, and other members of the family, have received intimidating, threatening, hurtful, and offensive inquiries from individuals regarding Mark and his death based on an unsupported, offensive, and unsubstantiated conspiracies.” Reading between the lines what I heard was: you, Joe public, will never know how he really died because we own the people in Arkansas and don’t want you to really know what’s going on. The nonprofit ranch where his body was found is called the Heifer ranch which is tied to Walmart. Hillary Clinton sat on the Walmart board for years.
Middleton rigged a gallows using a table and committed the horrible act of suicide on land owned by Heifer International. Heifer’s headquarters is on the same piece of land as Clinton’s Presidential Center in Little Rock. I’m sure this wasn’t a message to anyone or anything of that nature. Mark Middleton’s wiki page has now been redirected to a band member. I used it several times so I know it was active. As an aside note: Ashley Haynes (went missing Jan 12, while paddle boarding) was found drown in the Arkansas River a few months before Middleton’s death with and electrical cord around her ankles tied to a concrete block. According to an anonymous source she was in Mark’s office for a financial meeting just prior to her death. It was said at the time she left a note at home saying she was going paddle boarding…by herself when she belonged to a paddle boarding club. My question…in 2022, who leaves notes? Her son posted on her Facebook saying she was seen leaving the property on her paddle board; it was reported that a neighbor saw her leave the her property on the river but no one asked the person who saw her leave if she had a concrete block on the paddle board with her? And an electrical cord? It’s too much…
Just a few months prior to his death, a story broke about how he was the guy signing in Jeffrey Epstein to the WH during the Clinton administration. There had been a carefully spun tale about how Clinton hadn’t met Epstein until well after he departed the WH. That was a lie. The WH visitor logs indicate Middleton signed Epstein into the WH repeatedly (the majority of the 17 times he’d visited) as opposed to the 5 times previously reported which was after it was completely denied initially. Its what’s referred to as a developing story…it develops as new information (the truth) is discovered.
In December of 2021 The Daily Mail published a photograph of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell greeting, then, President Clinton back in 1993 which destroyed the narrative that Clinton had not met Jeffrey Epstein until well after he departed the WH. But the majority of the national “media” refused to report on it. That’s because they were afraid of you connecting some very obvious dots if you were to look into what was going on knowing what we know today.
In the early to mid 1990’s there was a massive scandal, often times reported as China-Gate but in reality it as Riady-Gate as Whitney Webb likes to refer to it. But in reviewing many articles about the incident, you are hard pressed to even find the name Riady in the story even though they clearly were involved in the entire scheme, if not directing it.
The reason the DNC always points to foreign influence in our elections is because they originated it and have perfected it over the years. However, none were as blatant as the 1996 elections. Janet Reno knew the details of the scandal but refused to investigate and Congress allowed it to happen without impeachment hearings. They held hearings and understood the massive details and did nothing. The uniparty in action.
Mark Middleton was Mack McLarty’s right hand man during his tenure as Clinton’s Chief of Staff. Middleton had worked as the treasure of the campaign and McLarty was so impressed with his fundraising bundling efforts for the Clinton presidential campaign in 1992, he made him his assistant. Middleton had worked at the Worthen Bank according to an article written in the LA Times. In order to discuss Worthen Bank you have to know who Jackson Stephens is…
WHO IS JACKSON STEPHENS
Jackson Stephens is the guy who made Bill Clinton. He allegedly developed/bought the presidency. He was part owner of the Worthen Bank (along with Riady). He was an oilman, investment banker, diamond mine owner, hog farming, utilities, nursing homes and controlled quite a bit of Arkansas. Worthen Bank loaned the Clinton campaign $3.5M when he fell behind Bush and Perot during his first campaign. At the center of Stephens family wealth is Stephens Inc. It is one of the biggest investment banks outside of Wall St.
In 1954, Stephens Inc bought Arkla and by 1970’s they were underwriting the Walmart IPO. They own Stephens Production and Hotchkis & Wiley. Stephens sold a newspaper holding (eight to be exact) to New Media Investment Group for $102M. New Media Investment Group is a private equity firm and is the parent company of Gannett Co Inc, the largest newspaper publisher in US. Stephens funded Tyson Foods' takeover of Holly Farms 1989. Current portfolio includes investments in oil (Exxon Mobil), biotechnology (ImClone), home appliance retail (Conn’s). They own online betting companies including LasVegas.com and CasinoGaming.com. Jackson Stephens was a class mate of Jimmy Carter at the Naval Academy. Maybe the most significant part of Stephens Inc: Stephens created Systematics, which would become a leader in the bank data processing industry. This relationship continued over 40 years, with Systematics eventually acquired by Alltel, and later acquired by Fidelity National Information Systems. (For a full scope of business and timeline: https://www.stephens.com/our-story#section-8)
Stephens supported Clinton’s run for Governor and in return was given most of the state’s bond sales making Stephens millions and millions of dollars. Clinton campaign kept $55M in campaign funding at the Worthen Bank. Stephens businesses uses the Rose Law Firm where Hillary Clinton was a partner/lawyer. Stephens owned Arkla where McCarty was hired as CEO without any experience. Stephens was the business manager of the Hollywood couple (Bloodworth-Thomasons) who crafted Clinton’s image. Jackson’s older brother Witt Stephens was the initial brains of the outfit. He passed in the early 90’s and Jackson took over.
Stephens issued over $7B in bonds for the state of Arkansas during Clinton’s tenure as governor. The state auditor alerted the public of several issues with one bond offering and was immediately attacked. They were using the state retirement funds to ‘fix’ a problem with their student loan program. The problem was Stephens created the ‘solution’ and was both the bond issuers and the state retirement fund adviser who stood to make millions on the bond issue. She eventually gave in and authorized the deal which landed Stephens approximately $2M.
What major US family is without its ties to big Pharma…Jackson T. “Steve” Stephens (born July 24, 1952) is an American businessman and the founder, chairman, and CEO of Exoxemis, Inc., a biomedical research company. As with all big families they illustrate the uniparty perfectly. Steve Stephens was chairman of Club for Growth and co-founded the Arkansas Policy Foundation as well as serves as the chairman of the Club for Growth Foundation.
WHO IS JOHNNY CHUNG:
“In 1996, then, Senator John Kerry was in a tough re-election fight against Republican Governor Bill Weld. In July, Kerry met with businessman Johnny Chung and his Chinese partner Liu Chaoying. Johnny was born in Taiwan and later became an American citizen.
When John Kerry met with them in his Washington office, he had no idea that Liu Chaoying was a Lt. Colonel in the People’s Liberation Army." We are to believe that Kerry didn’t know he was dealing with a CCP asset? Do you believe he didn’t know or didn’t care? Liu Chaoying was the daughter of General Liu Huaqing. The children of members of the CCP, not unlike the DNC, are often used as conduits for spying or influence operations. While this was happening, her father was Vice Chairman of the Central Military Commission in China. He is regarded as the father of the Chinese Navy and was with Mao during the infamous Long March. He is very well known.
In exchange for helping Kerry, Chaoying wanted one of her (meaning CCP) companies listed on the NYSE. Kerry sent off a letter immediately to the SEC for that to happen. After the favor, Chung organized a fundraiser in LA for Kerry. Chaoying also wired Chung $300K at this point via a Hong Kong bank account and then introduced him to a CCP general, Ji Shengde. Chung later testified in Congress that Ji Shengde said he wanted Clinton reelected and that they loved the Democrat Party which is why he gave Chung the $300K. Ji Shengde was the head of CCP military intelligence at the time. The DNC would later have to return $366K that could be sourced as coming from China/CCP.
Johnny Chung first met the Clintons around 1992. From 1994-96 his visited the Clinton WH 49 times. Approximately half of the visits were aurhorized by Hillary Clinton, herself. In at least one of them, she met with several CCP state ran companies. Chung also arranged a donation of $50K to the DNC in exchange for ‘investors’ personally hear a radio address by Pres Clinton.
Further illustration of the uniparty approach to politics: Once congress began an investigation into the Chinese buying an election, it was already toward the end of the Clinton WH. It was George W. Bush that used his first official Executive Privilege action to prevent documents about Mark Middleton from being handed over to Congress. This happened just prior to the attacks of 9/11 and after those events and the blocking of ‘privileged documents’ it led to the premature closure of that investigation. And yes, we all wonder if it had any bearing on the events of 9/11…because had the hearing continued all of what we now know would have been discovered and the DNC would have collapse under the weight of the illegal activities/corruption of China buying our election.
WHAT IS THE ROSE LAW FIRM:
Rose Law Firm is the oldest law firm west of the Mississippi and, until the Clinton administration, had managed to produce 6 Arkansas Supreme Court Justices and many other notable legal scholars. But when federal appellate court Judge Richard Arnold called Phillip Carroll of the Rose Law Firm to tell him Vince Foster had committed “suicide”, Carrol was devastated and the Rose Law firm has never been the same. He (Carroll) was Foster’s mentor and godfather to his son. Soon phones were ringing all over Little Rock. At the time, Foster was the deputy WH counsel. He spent decades at The Rose Law firm and knew Clinton since childhood. Not unlike Middleton, there were very weird circumstances surrounding Foster’s suicide. He used an antique .38 Colt revolver and there was very little blood at the scene. It happened in an isolated area along the Potomac River in a park. Another Rose alum was the associate counsel at the WH, William Kennedy III, who called many of Foster’s friends back in Little Rock.
Webster Hubbell, another Rose alum was the number 3 person at the DOJ and Carroll needed to talk to him as soon as possible. Foster’s boss at the WH was Bernard Nussbaum. Nussbaum is the eldest son of Jewish immigrants and attended Columbia and Harvard Law. He succeeded Antonin Scalia as the editor of the Law Review at Harvard. He managed Robert Morgenthau’s NY governor’s race.
In December 1973, “Nussbaum left his law firm to serve as a senior member on the House Judiciary Committee's impeachment inquiry staff, led by John Doar, which conducted the impeachment investigation into President Richard Nixon. He played a role in presenting the results of the staff's inquiry to the House Judiciary Committee. In July 1974, the committee, in a bi-partisan vote, voted to recommend to the House of Representatives that the President be impeached.” Its important to note at this point that the entire Nixon impeachment was as corrupt as Pres Trump’s. It had CIA agents involved in most aspects of it but that’s another story for another time.
“He was also involved in handling the early stages of the Whitewater controversy, an investigation into an unsuccessful Arkansas real estate investment made by the Clintons years earlier, and the investigation of the suicide of his deputy, Vincent Foster. Contrary to the advice of others on the White House staff, in the administration, and in Congress, Nussbaum strongly urged the President not to seek the appointment of an independent counsel with respect to those matters” He was correct on all accounts. Clinton’s AG appointed a special counsel who was replace with Ken Starr based on a court ruling. Clinton later said it was the worse mistake he ever made and should have listened to Nussbaum.
Back at the crime scene in Foster’s office, it was Nussbaum who went to search it. The LA Times provides the cover story for the obstruction of justice (Nussbaum’s actions constitutes obstruction of justice) that followed. He took and secured all the evidence and refused to provide any of it to the special counsel, FBI or anyone else. The story goes that supposedly the millionaire attorney (Nussbaum), whose legal record is impeccable, missed a torn up suicide note that was supposedly found in a trash can by another lawyer almost a week later. Among the other things Nussbaum took from the office was an enveloped labeled Whitewater. That envelope would end up being found in the private residence of the Clinton’s at the White House much later. (Note: On January 28, 2011, Nussbaum sent a letter to President Barack Obama stating that while serving as White House Counsel he extensively reviewed the Jonathan Pollard file and supported his release immediately; Pollard was released).
Following Foster’s death and cover up, Rose Law Firm was enmeshed in the Whitewater scandal which many believe is the reason Forster was murdered. Hubbell, it was discovered had skimmed money from the law firm and resigned from #3 position at DOJ. Despite Foster’s murder, it was exposed that the President’s had past business dealings with a real estate investor and S&L; operator named James B. McDougal. Another attorney from Rose Law, who accompanied the Clinton’s to DC was investigated for not paying taxes on the nanny and Hillary was knew deep in Whitewater investigation. It was a bad look for all the Rose law firm alums that went to DC with Clinton.
After the suicide of Vince Foster the justice department and the United States Park Police sought papers found in Foster's briefcase that Nussbaum refused to hand over to both the department and the police. During the investigation into the travel office firings Nussbaum refused to hand over Foster's travel office notebook to Congress and the FBI.
According to many at Rose, Clinton didn’t work any high profile cases because at the time her husband was either the Attorney General or Governor. However that didn’t keep her from being involved in controversy. “Certainly Clinton didn’t refrain from mixing business and legal work. For example, she sat on the board of directors of two major Rose clients, TCBY Enterprises, the yogurt franchise, and Wal-Mart Stores. Her most serious potential conflict, of course, came from the fact that she represented Madison Guaranty at the same time that she was in business with its chairman, James McDougal. Most troubling of all was that while she had other firm partners handle work for Whitewater, she apparently did not disclose her business relationship with McDougal to the firm’s COO…”I never knew that she was in business with him,” says Giroir.”
At the end of the day, the unanswered questions surrounding Foster’s death have never been answered. Why wasn’t his fingerprints on the gun, where was all the blood, what happened to Barry Seal (drug dealer in Mena AR); how did James McDougal (Clinton’s real estate partner in White Water) die in solitary confinement (like Epstein); and what happened to Ed Willey? Willey died four months after Foster (by gunshot) and on the same day his wife, Kathleen Willey, revealed Clinton had groped her during a WH visit. Also, I found this tidbit: “a hard drive from Foster’s White House computer went missing. It eventually turned up in the Old Executive Office Building across the street from the White House, but investigators ultimately were unable to recover documents from the hard drive because it had been significantly damaged.” Apparently, destroying electronic equipment is old hat for Hillary.
Donald Trump is quoted as stating dark banking channels are how terror networks are funded. On April 28, 2016 Trump was interviewed by Bill O’Reilly and said about ISIS and the black market oil, “Because that’s their source of wealth. Now, they also have a lot of wealth through the banking channels. You have [to] comb the dark banking channels. And they’re getting a lot of wealth through them. People don’t even know about it but they are…” Its obvious Trump knew all about Hillary Clinton’s ties to Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI). It is a world-wide money laundering operation with ties to both Mossad and the CIA. It was the bank of choice for drug dealers, illicit arms sales, human trafficking and intelligence networks.
It was Jackson Stephens and Bert Lance who would bring BCCI to America using Rose Law Firm, including Hillary, Hubbell and Giroir. Clark Clifford, who served as SECDEF under Johnson, also played a role in the joint venture as he was the attorney for BCCI. Robert Altman was Bert Lance’s attorney and Cliffords’s law partner. Kamal Adham, who was in charge of Saudi Arabia’s intelligence agency played a role in the BCCI scandal. The Saudi Arabia bank was a partner in BCCI, as well. Rose was the law firm for the Arkansas financial group Stephens Inc. As stated by Martin Waller in The Guardian (March 24, 1994): “Stephens Inc. and the Rose law firm helped BCCI creep into the US banking market through its purchase of shares in Financial General.” I will cover more on this in a later article.
Riaty Family
Mochtar Riady (Chinese name: Lie Mon Tie) is an Indonesian financial kingpin; he founded and chairs the Lippo Group. Riady was born into a Chinese Indonesian family. Riady’s father and mother left China to moved to Indonesia. They returned to China after Mochtar was born until he was 6 yrs old. Mochtar began his financial empire as a bicycle shop owner at 22. He moved to Jakarta in 1954 and started his meteoric rise to prominence. He transformed Indonesia’s banking industry into a powerhouse. Mochtar founded the Mochtar Riady Institute for Nanotechnology and Pelita Harapan University besides reinvigorating Bank Central Asia.
Lippo Group was a conglomerate of different companies that operated internationally. Lippo has a large real estate portfolio in Indonesia and in the US. The group is made up of Lippo Limited and Lippi Karawaci. The Group began with Lippo Bank and the bank was used for real estate development projects and there are many articles that allege ties between the bank and money laundering with the real estate holdings being the avenue to wash the illicit money. In 2001, the group created a university in China, Putian University. The university taught international training in English in areas like accounting and computer science. Lippo Group has approximately $15B in assets in areas of retail, media, real estate, banking, natural resources, hospitality, and healthcare industries. The Lippo Group participates in the WEF and is invested in healthcare industry. They basically control the education, banking and healthcare system in Indonesia.
In 1977, James Riady became a partner in Worthen Banking with W. R. Witt and Jackson Stephens of Stephens Inc. after being sent to the US by his father to create a US banking segment of Lippo Group. Mochtar Riady initially tried to work with Jimmy Carter’s former budget director, Bert Lance to sell his interest in National Bank of Georgia but that deal didn’t work out. It would later be resurrected by BCCI as their entrance into the US market. It was through Stephens Inc that the Riady’s met the governor of Arkansas…Bill Clinton.
“In the early 1980s James and his father signed a licensing agreement with Zenith Electronics to produce color television sets in Indonesia and built a large production plant near Jakarta. Later, in 1985, Worthen was indicted of having administered several million dollars' worth of illegal, preferential loans to companies owned by the Riadys. The loans had allegedly been channeled through Lippo Finance and Investment, the Riadys' Little Rock-based company established in 1983, as well as the Stephenses and Liem Swie Liong, another Chinese-Indonesian businessman, sometimes described as having been Mochtar's mentor…After Worthen, James Riady bought the Bank of Trade in California, the oldest Chinese-American bank. Not long afterwards, the U.S. federal government issued cease-and-desist orders for "hazardous lending" and for violations against the money-laundering statutes. Riady then promptly sold the bank….James Riady moved to Los Angeles and established Lippo Bank with the help of Taiwanese banker John Huang. Again the bank lost a lot of money, made a number of bad loans, and violated laws of money laundering. James Riady established ties with Johnny Rayati in 2018 to enter the cannabis business in Washington state...Together with Jim Guy Tucker he established a company called AcrossAsia Multimedia Ltd. Tucker, another former Arkansas governor, had been forced to vacate the governor's mansion in 1996 due to alleged fraud in the Whitewater scandal. The two had met through Little Rock's Second Presbyterian Church. With AcrossAsia Multimedia they wanted to build the largest cable TV infrastructure in Indonesia using a company called Kabelvision. The venture was unsuccessful…The Riady family recently acquired the tallest skyscraper in the western US, Los Angeles' US Bank Tower, for $367.5M through OUE, a Singapore-listed entity that it controls.”
“Corruption controversies have marked James Riady's business career. In the 1996 presidential campaign, Riady was a major campaign contributor to the Democratic Party. In 1998, the United States Senate conducted an investigation of the finance scandal of the 1996 U.S. presidential campaign." James Riady was indicted and pleaded guilty to campaign finance violations by himself and his corporationJames Riady (son of Mochtar) was fined $8.6 million for breaching US federal election laws by making donations to Bill Clinton’s presidential election campaign. This was the largest fine ever levied for this offense.
“In January 2010, the Washington Post revealed how the 'disgraced' Riady had received a visa waiver by the Obama Administration to re-enter the US, despite having been banned by the Bush administration. Riady's old friend, US Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton claimed she had no knowledge of the visa waiver. A State Department official, embarrassed by the Post's revelation, said "the reality of his past remains a significant obstacle for future travel to the United States." Riady received a waiver from a rule that forbids entry to foreigners guilty of "a crime involving moral turpitude," a term that government lawyers generally interpret to include fraud.”